09Jul2009

Domain Helper service: Here to help you

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Today, we’re beginning to roll out something new to help high-speed Internet customers get where they want to go online even faster and easier than before. It’s called the Domain Helper service and we’re introducing it as a market trial in Arizona, Colorado, New Mexico, Oregon, Texas, Utah, and Washington.

First a quick explanation of what a domain name server (DNS) is, and why you should care. Every Web site you visit has a unique number, or set of numbers, associated with it. These numbers, called IP addresses, aren’t easy for most people to remember, so DNS maps those numbers to the Web addresses you are familiar with. For example, if you were to type in http://69.48.228.230 into your browser you would be taken to Fancast. But thanks to the magic of DNS typing in fancast.com will take you to the same place, and it is much easier to remember.

Despite the fact that web addresses are easier to remember than their IP address counterparts, sometimes you mistype an address. Let’s say you type in http://www.comtcas.com (instead of http://www.comcast.com). Normally you then sit and wait for the Web browser to time out, then you receive an error message that the site does not exist, and then you have to retype the correct address.

With the Domain Helper service we are testing now, we will instead help direct your Web browser to an easy-to-use page with suggestions and links to get you back on track. We also provide a seamless search experience on this page, which is powered by Yahoo!, so you can find relevant search information, or simply perform another search.

We also understand that sometimes customers want to surf their own way, without the assistance of services like Domain Helper, so we offer an easy way to opt-out right on the Domain Helper search page. This is a feature we feel is a best practice and is a key part of a white paper we submitted to the Internet Engineering Task Force, an open international community of experts concerned with the evolution, architecture and operation of the Internet, for comment and review.

We hope customers find this service to be helpful, so tell us what you think.

Update: Domain Helper has been rolled out nationally. More details here, and if you want to opt-out visit https://dns-opt-out.comcast.net (note that link will only work if you're on Comcast's network).

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31Jan
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I have tried repeatedly to remove this invasive and unwanted service. I have followed all directions, spent over an hour on the phone (and was told both that this service did not exist and then that it was due to my non-supported wireless router). I also have written in before and been assured it will be removed from my account without any luck. This is by far one of the most obnoxious invasions and takeovers of my computer I have ever seen. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE REMOVE IT FROM MY ACCOUNT. I AM BEGGING YOU TO JUST TURN OFF THE OPTION ON MY ACCOUNT AND GET RID OF IT.

25Jan
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Hey Rick,

I sent you an email directly.. and I've forwarded your comment along to our DNS folks. We'll get to the bottom of your issue.

You might try rebooting your modem, since that'll force it to get a new IP address from a DNS server that is serving up opted out addresses.

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Has anyone actually gotten the opt-out to work? I just opted all of my accounts out twice in a row, and it's still happening. This is unbelievably annoying. First, Comcast won't let you opt out of their incessant emails advertising all kinds of features nobody cares about and now this nonsense.

@Scott McNulty: "We think our implementation is pretty good, and that our opt-out process [...] is the best in the biz."

HAHAHA!!! Are you kidding me? I've just wasted 20 minutes trying to opt-out and IT DOESN'T FREAKIN' WORK. No offense, but if non-functioning settings and suggesting that your customers to use alternate DNS servers is your idea of "the best", then you're delusional.

19Jan
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Hey Jake, I think you'll find that most large ISPs are implementing features like Domain Helper. We think our implementation is pretty good, and that our opt-out process (detailed here http://dns-opt-out.comcast.net/) is the best in the biz (of course that is just our opinion).

You can also, of course, choose to use a different set of DNS servers, if you like (you can even manually enter one of our non-Domain Helper DNS servers: http://dns.comcast.net/dns-ip-addresses2.php).

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What a load of crap. You are CHARGING me to provide non-standard web behavior and show me ads instead of a legitimate NXDOMAIN message? What unmitigated gall.

18Jan
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The opt-out doesn't work. I opted out and the domain-helper (with all of its obtrusive ads) still comes to my "rescue".

09Jan
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Wow. My second day with Comcast and I already regret it.

This "service" does not follow DNS standards, instead Comcast is hijacking my browser to try to turn a few bucks.

This should be opt-in only since it is a change from expected behvior. I was surprised by it and did a little searching and finally found your opt-out process. Unfortunately, there is nothing in "my Devices" and nothing to troubleshoot this issue. I did a chat with your agents and she told me there was an error when she tried to turn it off. Ummm... thanks??? so now what?

I've tried sending an email but if I don't get this fixed in a few days, I'll be leaving comcast ASAP. Certainly won't use their DNS.

I signed up for you to use standar protocol to route my traffic and let me do what I want. I did not sign up for you to monkey around, ignore DNS protocols, and serve me crappy ugly error pages stuffed with ads. Do what I pay you for, and then leave me alone. So far I've spent an hour on this today. I guess any speed I picked up over DSL has just been a wash.

24Dec2009
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I also cannot opt out. Spent an hour on the phone yesterday with Comcast who claimed that no such thing existed even though it is right on my screen. I was told it was because I had an unsupported (i.e. no comcast) wireless router.

I am using Mac Safari and click the diable error service with no response. I follow instructions to go into my account and the user and settings tab. Under this area NO option to disable the service exists. All that is needed is for Comcast to set my account properly.

It was last left with the phone technician yesterday that he would write a note about my complaint. Some help.

05Dec2009
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Another thing I wanted to ad is I don't care if other ISPs offer this service I still don't want it and I don't want to have to log into anything to get rid of it. Stop using the "Well everybody else is doing it." excuse.

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I don't want to have to opt out if I don't want this. I can't remember the e-mail I used for my comcast account or the password for that matter so how the hell am I supposed to opt out of your cray domain helper service. I don't want to wait an hour on the phone ether. Idiots trying to force me to click your crappy ad space.

04Dec2009
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WOW, so I'm VPNed into my company's network, and from within Microsoft Word 2007, I browse to our SharePoint portal via unc path: \\portal\some\folder\containing\my\docs

All seems well.

Then I double click the Word Doc I want. What loads is a Word-parsed HTML file from friendly comcast DNS service "Domain Helper" -- guess I need to opt out... This is NOT what Comcast has said (that it would not "hijack" or "override" VALID DNS QUERIES), but that it would only respond to clear failures. This is ridulous. Totally destroying my ability to use my office VPN and sharepoint.

03Dec2009
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This service is absolutely terrible and has given me every reason to drop Comcast. If you think this service is a winner -- let people opt in; as it is, this absolutely needless "service" is actively working against me and my Google-powered Firefox address bar. Even worse, when I finally noticed the Disable link I was routed through no fewer than five different Comcast sites -- each asking for credentials -- all to finally arrive at a dashboard that I was unable to log into.

Thanks for a terrible "service".

02Dec2009
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I set my "helper" status to "off" last weekend and yet I still get the service. I very much agree with the general tone on this blog that this "service" SUCKS! I while I will NEVER EVER click on one of the links provided by this "service," my dissatisfaction with my ISP will grow every time I see it.

01Dec2009
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Hey Rob, I can assure that my statement isn't a load of crap. I've reached out to a member of our DNS team who is going to contact you directly to resolve this issue. According to our records you are opted out, but obviously something is going on. We'll get your issue resolved (you might need to reboot your modem and force your PC to get a new IP... if you don't know how to do that let me know and I can forward you some directions).

30Nov2009
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"I can assure you that all opt-out requests will be honored." - Scotty McNulty

That's a load of crap, you've already "lost" my opt out request. Or is that the plan, to make everyone jump through hoops to opt out every few weeks so that eventually they'll give up and just deal with it?

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So I opted out of this piece of crap that you like to call a "service" and what do you know, it came back. So what did you just dump everyone's opt out request? What a freaking joke, and my comcast account page says "No device information is available" so apparently I can't opt out at all anymore. I'm counting the days until FIOS is available here so I can say goodbye to your greedy monopoly once and for all.

26Nov2009
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This service will be the straw that broke the camels back. Thanks to the DNS redirecting (and the highly nonintuitive method of disabling it), I'm switching to another service provider following the end of my contract.

25Nov2009
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I completely agree. Absolutely ASTOUNDING that Comcast would for people to OPT OUT of hijacking your internet. I had this same problem tonight. One big absolute BOOOOOO to Comcast for pulling this trick.

22Nov2009
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What a staggeringly bad idea. Poorly implemented, too; I received no advance notice of the rollout.

You have broken my work mail, etc.

I will begin my search for a new provider today.

21Nov2009
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You can only turn this "feature" or should I saw money maker for Comcast in IE on Winodws. Safari and Firefox on a MAC will not allow you to see the disable button in the pop-up window.

19Nov2009
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I talked to comcast tech support and he didn't know what I was taking about LOL!

Here is a trick I use:

If you are using FireFox go and get the addon called NoRedirect then enable the addon go to tools and then NoRedirect. Then click on Add and add http://search3.comcast.com or the one you want to block. I have DNS Error checked on mine.

For some reason I disabled the domain helper crap and I would still get that page. After I set up that addon I dont see that comcast crap anymore!!!

16Nov2009
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Hey Chris, sorry to hear about your difficulties with opting out. The process has been set up to easy and clearly it isn't working for you! I'll email you directly to see if I can help you resolve your issue.

Also, I'm not trying to be insulting or saccharine in any of my responses on here. I'm just explaining why we launched Domain Helper, and how people (like yourself) who don't find it helpful can opt-out.

Update: I just noticed that Chris didn't use a valid email address to comment with, so I can't email him. Chris, if you're still having issues feel free to email me. My email is (to thwart would be spammers) my first name followed by an underscore and then my last name at comcast dot com.

14Nov2009
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You hope customers find this service to be helpful? You have “best practices” for DNS hijacking? What a joke. This isn’t helpful, the only “best practice” is to follow the DNS spec, and your saccharine responses to complaints are insulting. I’ve just gone through three or four rounds with your “opt-out” link, to no avail. Funny that the part of this system that serves ads seems to work fine.

I’ve already cancelled my television service with Comcast because I just can’t stomach giving you any more money than is absolutely necessary. Internet utilities should be regulated as heavily as water, gas, and electricity. If you keep this kind of thing up, you will be.

12Nov2009
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Sorry you feel that way, Lynn. We have made it very easy to opt out (dare I say much easier than the other ISPs that do this, though that is a judgement call you'll have to make for yourself).

We've also called for best standards to be adopted by all ISPs that have services similar to Domain Helper, and our engineers have been working with standards groups to make this happen.

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You are just begging and governmental intervention. You are proving that self-regulation is not enough of a safeguard and doing all that you can to ensure that popular opinion is totally against you. When it is time for your voice to be heard you will have already spoken and anything you say can be evaluated in the same light that you call this a domain "helper" and try to spin it as value added to the customers. When you plea that regulation would stifle innovation and your ability to add value to your customers, we can all remember this as the sort of value-added you have in mind and loudly agree that this sort of 'innovation' deserves to be stifled.

I'm not too fond of governmental regulation, but you sure have made a strong case for it.

The new DNS hijacker (ala "Domain Helper") was a real disappointment that has lowered my impression of Comcast significantly. First, doing it was sneaky, second, it is a brain-dead search page you present -- it will not even handle a corrected domain taking the user to that exact domain.

Terrible job, truly terrible, and one whose impact will follow you for many years.

06Nov2009
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Andrew, we aren't the first ISP to do this and we even wrote a whitepaper to establish best practices.

That being said it is very easy to opt out. Here are the instructions:

https://dns-opt-out.comcast.net/

04Nov2009
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This is simply unacceptable. After taking my money in exchange for a promise to provide a service - Internet Access - comcast changes that service in a way that fundamentally breaks a fundamental function of the service - returning a legitimate error when a DNS lookup fails. Many pieces of software that access the internet depend on this fundamental and basic function of internet access. The result is that this action by comcast, an action that violates the RFC standard for DNS (NXDOMAIN) responses, essentially renders many pieces of software that their customers depend on ineffective. This action was taken by comcast after many customers, AND suppliers of the affected software, invested much of their time and resources into what is ultimately a reasonable dependence on this fundamental function of internet access.

This action by comcast has caused real, measurable damage to customers and software suppliers.

03Nov2009
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Hey Mark, we know that Domain Helper creates strong opinions amongst our customers which is why we make it easy to opt out. Here are the instructions:

http://dns-opt-out.comcast.net/help-index.php

FiOS also has a similar service.

02Nov2009
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This Domain Helper service breaks my work VPN domain server list and completely blocks me from accessing all my work websites. Even though I opted out of this service a few days ago, it keeps throwing me back to static IP address 208.68.139.38 and messes with my work. I was totally unaware of this nonsense until things started breaking a month back and had to call my work help desk to get to know about this issue. Comcast never alerted me about this and it is really rude that they stuck this in my account with default settings set to ON.

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Who the frack does Comcast think they are? I ask you to convert a domain name into an ip adrress, not plaster me with ads and nonsense results from some crappy search engine. DNS has a simple task, return an ip address. Leave it to Comcast to follow in Verisign's footsteps an frack it all up.

Must be time to check out FOIS, Quest, etc.

01Nov2009
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I hate this service. I use Comcast for internet and cable, not to have my browser hijacked. It took me hours of trying to figure out what was wrong with my browser before I found out this was a Comcast "service" and not some kind of spyware.

25Oct2009
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After opting out of this hijacking service about a month ago, Comcast decided to opt me back in to this "Yahoo Search" powered service. On top of that, the results returned are WORTHLESS!

I searched for "comcast hijacked my dns" only to be greeted with "Sorry, we can't find "comcast hijacked my dns"." Yahoo search results have plenty.. guess comcast just doesn't want the truth out ... hmm.. sounds like .. uh... chairman Mao.

24Oct2009
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What an outrageous and intrusive power grab. Thanks, Comcast, for delivering more ads to my screen. Now I have to create a Comcast email address and user account just to opt out of this stupid bug? Ridiculous. Easier to assign a new DNS to my account.

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This service should be disabled by default. NO WAY should you be showing me alternate websites. I have my browser set to not search from the address bar. I DO NOT want alternate pages being displayed. This service is not a "help" by any means.

11Oct2009
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Wow Comcast. This is totally crap, even for your standards. We PAY for your service and then you try to get ad revenue? I demand a price reduction then.

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COMCAST:

By the VAST MAJORITY of comments on this article as well as the feedback you have received over blogs, tech news websites, etc. being overly negative - how could you possible still think that this service is a good idea? Why is it still implemented? It is almost unanimously agreed that this 'service' is NOT helpful and the Opt-Out function is NOT easy or intuitive in any way. Why, then, are you still forcing it upon your users?

09Oct2009
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I'm very disappointed. For years we've stuck with Comcast even though they're more expensive, even as the price got higher and higher for our services. And now you're hijacking my browser which I choose of my own free will, and pretend like you're helping me? You provide me a service, which is broadband internet. Your permission to enter my home stops where the cable meets my modem. Stay off my monitor please.

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Please understand that according to the strict definition of how DNS works this qaulifies as DNS hijacking. Not to mention that it breaks Linux software repositories such as OpenSUSE's YAST pretty profuoundly as about half of my requests to YAST repo's end up getting silently redirected to YOUR search site instead, making software installs on a linux box an intensely irritating issue. It also means that network installs of the system are all but impossible on your network.

I have since worked around it myself, and stopped using your DNS servers which cannot reliably route such large and well known sites as download.opensuse.com, lifehacker.com, and a host of others. All this in the name of purely trying to improve your search hits.

07Oct2009
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This helper service totally stinks! Very Lame. Very Disappointing.

06Oct2009
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This is functionality that browsers should handle. Users see what they type, browsers auto-complete and show history drop-downs. Google Chrome especially does this well. Once submitted, the dns name should be locked in. There are too many complications arising from this and it's handled too well client-side. Remove the service, or at least default to opt-out.

03Oct2009
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She might also be referring to the CAPTCHA when you try to log in or get a new password, which was hard for me to read.

This breaks a basic behavior of Firefox. When I go to the location bar and type "USPS", instead of being redirected to the post office homepage (or, if the top result isn't a clear winner, a Google search), I get hijacked by Comcast. Firefox has a variety of things it does when the domain does not exist, and you're breaking that.

I have no idea what my Comcast email is, and nothing I'm trying works. I'm just gonna change the DNS servers I'm using and stop telling people I'm happy with Comcast. If you haven't figured out that you're breaking something useful here, that's fine. Just don't expect me to put off switching to Verizon FiOS any longer.

30Sep2009
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Daniel, Thanks for the feedback on our Fancast site. We are very happy to hear that you like that service. As far as opting out of Domain Helper service, it requires logging into our Customer Central application to select the Domain Helper service on and off. We have tested this with all major web browsers including Safari. If you look at the instructions here: https://dns-opt-out.comcast.net/help-index.php we captured our screenshots of the opt-out process using Safari so it does work. There may have been some issues with connecting to that site when you last tried, and I apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused you. I will contact you shortly to ensure that you get opted out in a timely fashion and thanks for bringing this to our attention. Thanks -- Jorge Alberni on behalf of Chris Griffiths

28Sep2009
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Shame on you, Comcast.

22Sep2009
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a) I can't make the opt-out page work under Safari. I get a pretty comcast progress banner that never goes away.

b) This is not a helpful service. It actively interferes with the way the internet is supposed to work: As a user, I would like to be told as as user that a website does not exist. I don't want to be redirected to a list of supposedly helpful sites.

Comcast should stop meddling with the service I actually pay them for and focus their revenue efforts on legitimate services such as the very excellent fancast.com.

16Sep2009
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Kathleen,

I just sent you an email with instructions on how to check if you're opted out or not. The only time you should have to opt out again is if you get a new cable modem (since the new cable modem will have a different MAC address).

Be that as it may, I'm sorry about this inconvenience and we'll get to the bottom of it!

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Hey Ron, you can also change your DNS IP addresses manually to one on this list:
http://dns.comcast.net/dns-ip-addresses2.php

Though, of course, that's a computer by computer change.

The instructions on that page might it look like an onerous task to opt out, but it is really just logging and and selecting the opt-out button.

As for the Captcha requirement, I'm assuming you're talking about the Captcha we use here on Comcast Voices. While it might be lame, comment spam is even lamer and it is pretty standard practice to have a Captcha to prevent it.

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This is not a helpful service. You've disrupted the behavior of my browsers and now I have to figure out how to register / log in to your system in order to disable it?

In this very blog post you indicate that I can opt-out right on the Domain Helper page, but this is not correct. The lengthy description of the opt-out is described here:

https://dns-opt-out.comcast.net/help-index.php

Hijacking my service is lame. The Captcha requiremenet is lame, since you already know who I am from my IP address. Wake up.

Ron

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LOVELY! I went through the hassle and rigor of opting out but guess what? It's obviously been reset because I'm being redirected CONTRARY TO MY EXPRESSED WISHES to your crappy "helper" page AGAIN. I'm filing a complaint with the better business bureau and urge everyone else to do the same.

Like I said before, hijacking isn't helping. Following your lead, the Somali pirates should have hired a PR firm or had a corporate mouthpiece to reframe their hijacking as helping.

12Sep2009
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'The other guy does it too and he does it worse' is not an excuse outside of a 1st grade classroom. And those are the only responses from Comcast I've seen to the comments here. If you cannot truly defend your practice on its own merits, or be honest that it is about money and not about providing some supposed service to customers who didn't even know they needed it then perhaps you should re-examine your practice.

If your Domain Helper were locally installed on my machine, it would be spyware. And quite frankly the Yahoo-powered ad-based search that popped up wouldn't provide the proper address in its search results when the only error was that it ended with ".orgz".

I am incredibly unhappy with my Comcast service as a result of this.

10Sep2009
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Shameful stuff Comcast. DishTv, here I come.

04Sep2009
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Congratulations, Comcast, you just earned a fifth of a cent with your disgusting and disrepsectful "helper" here. Particularly cute is how you require me to submit my social security number to you

I can guarantee the conversation I just had with your tech online, (comcastsupport.com) and the follow-up ones I'm going to need to have, to cancel this, are more expensive than that.

Snap out of the delusion that it's just that all customers are whiny, and wake up to the fact that it is your own disgusting, maximally exploitative behavior that they are reacting to. No commercial, no "conversation" with your users, can fix that. Why, exactly, are you not heavily regulated by the state Public Service and Public Utilities Commissions?

31Aug2009
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i opted out of this service FIVE days ago yet it still has not been disabled. it is absolutely outrageous that this unwanted service has been forced upon me, and it is unconscionable you won't even allow me to opt out!

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scott,
i opted out of this service FIVE days ago, yet it is still active. WHAT is going on here? i am very upset about this unwanted service your company won't even let me out of!

29Aug2009
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Just got hijacked by this so called 'Helper' for the first time today and am extremely disappointed in Comcast. The fact that I have to do any work to opt out of a service I never asked for nor requested is ridiculous. And, I am sorry, but up to 2 days (which is the notice I just got) to process the request is unacceptable and not "quick." If I had any other choice, I would be leaving Comcast.

28Aug2009
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This is just a slimy way to screw up the internet and make money foisting advertisements on people by directing them to another useless web page. Euphemisms such as 'domain helper' are blatant lies for a marketing grab with no concern for the customer.

I do not need any of these stupid portals or 'exciting services' from Comcast that they spam my email accounts about every month. Now they figured out another way to get you to look at their web pages. As far as real internet services that an ISP should be providing, Comcast took away usenet, and then magically deleted everything that was on my personal web page with no explanation. Thank god FTP still works for uploading to the web pages, the 'personal web page designer' is as much a useless hell as the whole Comcast website that is designed to run slow, lockup web browsers, and now since I paid my last bill was redesigned with so much more floating popup crap that now the browser can't even save the password. Well now it works on Firefox which it didn't for two years.

Returning false information for DNS has now broken the access to computers inside my own house. I do not need the URL meant for a local server now sent to advertisers as keywords (wonder if the advertisers get passwords from the URL too?!? Luckily everything goes out through my own gateway with a DNS server of it's own so I was able to specify a non-Comcast DNS server (and surprise, faster). Opt-out is not an answer, turn this off now! SHAME!

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WRONG. Comcast has NOT made it easy to "opt out" in fact, they make you THINK you're opted out, but they can not, actually, opt you out. Once it's on your service, it's there until Comcast gets it through their thick heads that this was one of the DUMBEST moves they have ever made.

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I really wonder if ANYONE had successfully opted out of this. My guess is no. I really don't think you can. Oh, Comcast will TELL you that you are opted out, but type in a bad URL, and you STILL get redirected to their search2.comcast.com site. This is the biggest joke of them all. I am STILL waiting for them to take it off.

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Lucky for you, WBB, you appear to have an option. In my area it's Comcast - or dial-up.

I actually received a personal response from someone who offered to "have the DNS Team look into it" (but my original posting to this board was dropped for some reason), but so far, nada.

26Aug2009
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Because of Comcast's Domain Hijacker, we will be opting out of Comcast's high-speed Internet at our first opportunity. This is a sleazy business practice.

24Aug2009
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This truly is buillsh*t. Pushing this "service" down our throats was bad enough, but apparently the opt-out is ignored. I actually believed the "We completed the work" email - until I mistyped an URL (well past the period that DHCP would have renewed, but I had forced it) and landed at the DHS screen. Silly me for trusting Comcast and not trying ti see if I had actually been opted out.

You are a horrible company, Comcast, and your mostly captive audience with no alternatives in their area are why you do not lose more customers.

22Aug2009
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Baloney, I've been waiting WEEKS now, after OPTING OUT Three times. It seems the comcrap geniuses can't seem to figure out how to actually opt you out. Perhaps they're still reading their scripts that tell them to "clear your cookies"

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Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 06:26:54 GMT
Server: Apache/2.2.3 (Red Hat)
Connection: close
Transfer-Encoding: chunked
Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8

200 OK


Why not send a 40x code?

Since I'm a programmer, I'll lend this moment here to help you guys out, since I'm such a nice person. Although I'm concerned that my IP is probably attached to this post, and I might undergo some adverse treatment once North Korean Comcast gets all their power.

Well, here goes nothing:

I see links on Comcast.com that end in .asp, so I'll assume you're using ASP at least on some servers:

Response.Status = "404 Not Found"

But I also see that you're using Red Hat on your search2.comcast.com subdomain, so if it is PHP on that server (since ASP isn't really made for Linux/Unix), how about this:

header ('HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found');


I think that this may curtail some of the extreme adversities that members are feeling towards your company...Of course this is like putting a bandaid on a gunshot wound, but hey -- we may stay customers until the ambulance gets here.

21Aug2009
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I canceled my service over this, and encourage others to do the same as this change affirms that Comcast is largely unwilling to adhere to basic internet standards. I also recommend contacting Rick Germano[1] to voice your concerns, and also congressional representatives and/or the FCC. I look forward to an open internet unhindered by corporate meddling.

[1] http://www.comcast.com/customers/feedback/default.cspx

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So you've gotten so much negativity on your own site with regards to this feature. When do you guys plan on removing this? Or do you expect people to become complacent with this horrid change?

17Aug2009
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GREAT. If I don't remember to OPT OUT tonight, I may have to take the rest of the week off of work. I work from home several days (and nights) a week, and depend on my internet service to get me VPN'd to work.

Thank you Comcastic / craptastic.

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Hey Nowrap,

You did call us greedy in your other comment, which we didn't post, but that's not the reason it wasn't posted. You were a little stronger in your language than that, however, this comment (which is obviously posted) follows our Rules of the Road, and even though you disagree with us it has been posted (as have numerous other comments on this blog).

I'm sure you understand that we need to moderate comments for a host of reasons, however, there are actually very few comments which aren't posted and when they aren't posted we email the author and let them know why.

Here are the Rules of the Road, in case anyone is interested: http://blog.comcast.com/about.html

16Aug2009
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Maybe if your company spent more than five minutes meeting on ways to increase revenue in what, in many regions, is an already monopolized market, you could have come up with something original and valuable to provide customers. However, your company has decided to take advantage of a majority of users that are clueless to your greed. (Please censor me again for calling your company what it is - greedy.) It's DNS hijacking. It's unsolicited (opt-out?? give me a break.) and it's spam. How about make all the noobs, who are oblivious to any change, OPT-IN.

Yeah, yeah. I can change my DNS servers. Yeah, yeah. I can go through your elegant opt-out system. Point is that I shouldn't have to. Point is that I have already have a really good system for finding out whether or not a URL resolves. Firefox has been handling that just fine for me. And guess what? It's ad-free. If I wanted to pay $50/month to be advertised to even more I'd... well, I'd opt-in.

Comcast isn't the first company to pull this and they most certainly won't be the last. But give me a break. Quit blowing smoke up our collective butts and telling us you know what's good for us and how much of a help it will be.

14Aug2009
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Nathan, the two business day period is the maximum amount of time it'll take to get you opted-out. Generally it takes less time (though you have to check your DHCP lease time as well, since when you opt-out you are effectively moving to a different set of DNS servers).

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Thanks for the ability to comment on this. I'm actually not a fan of the new service. I think companies like Yahoo (your partner) lost a huge market share to companies like Google realizing you should not wallpaper a page with 85-90% ads. In addition the opt-out process is horrid, 2 business day opt-out? that means I opted out today Friday, I'm possibly waiting until Tuesday to get this ad service removed.

Here's my article to dispel the truths about this service.
http://doggydish.com/component/content/article/39-comcasts-domain-helper-service.html

Comcast Fail.

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This is not a service, this is exploitation. Corporate double-speak is insulting.

Opt-out instead of opt-in is reprehensible.

The opt-out system is cumbersome and slow.

Breaking network protocols is bad practice and diminishes your service. That Comcast would resort to it in the name of fractional advertising profits is repulsive.

Although steps were clearly taken to do this more responsibly than some other ISPs, this does nothing to change the fact that it's still wholly inexcusable behavior.

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This is not a service, this is exploitation. Corporate double-speak is insulting.

Opt-out instead of opt-in is reprehensible.

The opt-out system is cumbersome and slow.

Breaking network protocols is bad practice and diminishes your service. That Comcast would resort to it in the name of fractional advertising profits is repulsive.

Although steps were clearly taken to do this more responsibly than some other ISPs, this does nothing to change the fact that it's still wholly inexcusable behavior.

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This is a gross invasion of privacy, but what else should we expect from a heartless mega-corporation?

13Aug2009
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I am here to add my voice to the tally of those who oppose this service.

12Aug2009
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So other than having someone tell us that the domain helper BS is easy to opt out of, is anyone reading this or taking the customers into consideration? Oh wait we a just sheep that do whatever our ISP tells us and continue to pay while they pull in more revenue from ads and partnerships.... we should be ashamed as much as comcast. Maybe it will all get better when someone wises up and does a class-action against the providers for breaking the internet (yes this is typosquating and yes this is illegal but comcast and others seem to be able to call it something else but w/e).

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So other than having someone tell us that the domain helper BS is easy to opt out of, is anyone reading this or taking the customers into consideration? Oh wait we a just sheep that do whatever our ISP tells us and continue to pay while they pull in more revenue from ads and partnerships.... we should be ashamed as much as comcast. Maybe it will all get better when someone wises up and does a class-action against the providers for breaking the internet (yes this is typosquating and yes this is illegal but comcast and others seem to be able to call it something else but w/e).

11Aug2009
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I'm in Atlanta and have just experienced this "domain helper" crap. All I want AND need from you is an internet connection that is reliable. STAY THE HELL OUT OF MY INTERNET EXPERIENCE.

09Aug2009
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This just showed up for me today. I'm very, very unhappy with the change. I opted out, of course, but I should not have HAD to opt-out. I want my browser to take over when I mistype a URL - Firefox helpfully uses Google for it. I do not want to give you more Ad revenue from Yahoo.

I'm very disappointed at this violation of my trust in your company. You've broken core functions of the internet for increased ad revenue. While I know my MAC address, many of your customers won't. It's a poor way to service your customers.

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I cannot believe that Comcast has resorted to this shocking practice of redirecting my web traffic to sponsored search pages and breaking my email. The entire team responsible for this must be fired immediately. I am considering firing Comcast myself by switching to UVerse, because not only is Comcast so expensive, but apparently arrogant. I have opted out of your greedy redirection scheme, but of course it has not taken effect. I, like everyone here, despise what you have done with my account against my will. I am paying big money to you during the worst economic period in modern times, and yet Comcast decides to mess with my subscription. STUPID MOVE....FIRE EVERYONE INVOLVED IN THIS BOONDOGGLE.

08Aug2009
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Comcast should not be in business of hijacking DNS to begin with. Not to mention the manner in which this "service" is forced on Comcast customers. If Comcast believes that the opt-out process is that simple it should have given the customers the opportunity to opt-in.

07Aug2009
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alot of Comcast customers have no other recourse than to endure whatever Comcast deems appropriate for their business, as the only service provider in many smaller communities. Of course canceling service is a remedy, but Verizon DSL might as well be NetZero dial-up. I've opted out, but the frustration is always present. No anger, just reality. OpenDNS.

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I just read that the opt-out process was "very simple" I call bull on that. It's cumbersome even for someone with some technical knowledge. This is a sleazy money grab and the awkward opt-out procedure is doubly sleazy. To make it even "easier" you guys should have mad it a form to be filled out in triplicate and then hand delivered to a Comcast office.

No wonder cable companies are amongst the most hated businesses in America.

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I didn't even see any Yahoo! ads on the page: might be NoScript and AdBlock at work.

While my opinion of the service is simply that I don't want it or need it, rather than dislike it (I mean, it doesn't launch popups or try to hijack my browser like most typosquatters), it DOES break some things that rely on NXDOMAIN.

Opt out is easy enough, I got the email immediately, hit the confirm link, and it was off within 24 hours.

If you didn't get the email, double check your email address, of course, but also check to make sure you are using the right MAC. Most cable modems will show it to you if you go to the info page at http://192.168.100.1/ (that page is generated by your modem)

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You make a good point, and I am forwarding this comment to our team in charge of that page.

Thanks!

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Tim, the ISP you use is entirely up to you though we don't want to lose you as a customer. I will point out, thought, that FiOS has a nearly identical service turned on for its subscribers (as does Cox, Charter, Cablevision... and so on).

We think our opt-out process is very simple, and we have even published a list of our DNS server IPs to make it even easier for savvier folks:

http://dns.comcast.net/dns-ip-addresses.html

We're also working on making the opt-out process even easier by not requiring MAC addresses. Look for that in the near future.

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Shame on you Comcast for forcing this "feature" on your users without a) asking and b) turning it on by default. Defaulting to "opt in" puts you in the same category as the shameless spammers in my book. This is nothing short of junkmail. I have been waffling back and forth about FIOS due to your outrageous costs - I think my decision was just made for me.

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comcast should NOT be hijacking my dns requests. this is NOT a "service", it is a blatant attempt to capture advertising dollars at my expense. i pay comcast already; if you guys want to transition to an ad-supported revenue model, fine, just stop billing me first.

and why isn't the opt-out link posted here at the top of this blog posting? i, like a lot of folks i suspect, do not use comcast email as my main account, and i certainly haven't seen any communications from comcast about this.

clearly an exercise in bad faith by comcast.

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I live in Kansas, and we were not one of the pre-advertised "roll-out" sites. IN fact, I cannot find a single e-mail directing me to this new program (to use the term loosely), yet sure enough I am redirected.

This is obviously a backdoor toward ending net neutrality, which Comcast is on record as opposing.

I would love to opt out, but in my house, my cable modem, because of where the line comes in, is on a high shelf in the basement, and I need to get a ladder, lift up my router, get a flashlight and look at the MAC address.

If you really wanted to make it convenient, why do you need this? You already have our MAC addresses on file.

Oh... and Surewest is now available in my neighborhood, at prices much cheaper, I will be switching ASAP. You lost yourself a customer.

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I am not here to pad your bottom line. I use your service because it provides me some value. If you mess with my internet service by doing non-standard things to eek a few more bucks out, I will drop you.

You would think that you would have learned from the Network Solutions flap (google it).

Secondly, if you truly cared about your service, you would make the "benefit" opt-in. An opt-out is generally a bad idea. You continue to show no respect for your customer and therefore we will have no loyalty to you. In fact, if you continue to mess with our service, enough voices will call out to regulate you and separate your lines from your ISP. Learn from the telcos and avoid that. If we're happy, we're not going to call out.

Anger us and we send nasty-grams to our representatives. I'm sending several today. I suggest other angered people do it as well.

Seriously, respect us. We're not just dollar trees. We're people who gave you trust. Trust you continue to break.

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This is an awful idea and a fine example of why I wish there were more competition in the marketplace for broadband. It's a travesty that the FCC allows this situation to persist.

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Feedback for Comcast:

This is unwanted, unneeded, and unwelcome. I'm not in a state in which you're rolling this out, but I certainly hope the pilot ends before it gets to me! If it does not, I will be considering my options which include another service provider - we're getting competition to Comcast soon - and contacting the FCC.

Listen to your customers - we do NOT want this.

06Aug2009
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I'm having trouble finding a single positive review here, Comcast. So will you listen to your *customers* and turn this immoral, illegal service off permanently? OF COURSE NOT! You are bad.

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I realize you are a paid employee that has to spout the company line, but how, exactly, is *breaking* Internet standards helpful? Comcast is unbelievably arrogant.

Did anybody also notice they announced today they made record profits? How? They admit by raising prices. So does Comcast really *need* to break the Internet for a few more shekels? No. Will they anyway? Yes. Why? Greed.

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I think it's rather unhelpful for the opt-out form to have six separate two-character fields - so that you can't simply copy and paste the MAC address form the cable modem webpage. I'm not going to call this spiteful, but it's questionable.

Anyway, arrogant Comcast, I think opt-in is better than opt-out.

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Comcast's swarmy effort to add to its bottom line masquerading as a "service" is more than an inconvenience. The practice violates web standards.

I for one won't forget it iwhen more options for broadband access are available.

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What a great way to sneak in more advertising and make more money! Set up every Tom, Dick and Harry with this "help' and most of the less internet savvy people won't know better! Wow, I cannot wait until Fios is available at my home in a few months. Comcast doesn't know how to treat customers after being a monopoly in my area for so long.

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I'm certain I can't convince you that Domain Helper is... well, helpful, but I can warn you that FiOS has a very similar service enabled by default, and our opt-out is a little easier (of course I work for Comcast so it makes sense that I think our way is easier, you can decide that for yourself).

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this is a very bad setup "helper" --- should have been only an "opt-in" not a convoluted "opt-out" with needing the "mac address". What a crock!!

I send it a opt-out a couple of days ago and only got the "verification" message last nite and that then says it will take 5-10 days (FIVE TO TEN DAYS!!!!) to take effect.

This is awful, just plain awful and shows the disrespect Comcast holds their long-time users in.

BOO on you Comcast.

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Since my cable modem connection keeps going out every day (2 weeks, 5 calls, 1 service call that didn't work, 1 service call coming up on Sat, and a swapped-out cable modem) I was stunned to get this notice of sanctioned DNS hijacking.

I don't know how many cable modems I will go through to resolve my dropped connection issues THIS TIME (3 modems and multiple connector/splitter replacements and wasted vacation days is the norm over the past 12 years). I guess there is no point in opting out right now, is there?

I'm seriously considering DSL now, while I wait for FiOS.

Fabulous PR job, Comcast.

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New Mexico subscriber here. I received no such notification. An article on Consumerist.com alerted me to this new practice, and a quick jaunt to a bad URL confirmed that it had been enabled for my account. I've opted out and am waiting to see if it actually works, but you guys are jerks for pulling this on us in the first place.

Stop trying to trick me into looking at advertisements via a service that I pay good money for.

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This is a terrible idea. People do not like the idea of an ISP attempting to direct us to their "helper" sites. We pay for internet access, not for internet direction and suggestion. I am considering dropping my service with comcast (I live in illinois).